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Action Jacktion
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Originally posted by nichie: It is a reference to the famous quote "I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will fight to the death your right to say it." It's usually attributed to Voltaire but I'm not sure if he actually said it or not. He didn't. It was actually first said in the early 20th century by someone named Evelyn Beatrice Hall.
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Gorky
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That may have something to do with the fact that Homer and Bender's characters are alike in some ways. Also, the two college episodes are both Animal House parodies. I guess that the crew of both shows are fond of the movie.
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Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama: In another TOH episode, Homer tries to kill his family with an ax, much like what Leela uses to kill Hermes in AOI 1. Though that Simpson's episode was a parody of The Shining.
In AOI II Bender becomes a fat slob, much like Homer when Homer gains weight to get out of work. You can also say that Bender acts like Bart when Bart dreams of becoming a fat slob in that same episode.
Fat Bart: I wash myself with a rag on a stick. Now that's a reach and a half. For the first one: just because a character carries an axe doesn't make it a rip-off of Simpsons. As you mention yourself, the Simpsons segment was a parody of "The Shining", where as Leela was a murder-spree. The fact that there's an axe in it doesn-t make them one and the same, you might as well say the scene in "Parasites Lost" where Leela destroyes the micro-droids is a rip-off of that Simpsons episode. One nit-pick: Leela didn't just try to kill Hermes with an axe, she killed him in cold blood. For the second one: while there is some similarity between the scenes, the premise is entirely different. Homer becomes a fat slob because hes lazy and don't want to work, Bender because he has no self-control, or experience being a human. Homer also survices, while Bender dies.
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Gorky
DOOP Secretary
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You also have to remember that some of the crew from The Simpsons later went on to write for Futurama. That could account for some similar story lines.
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Helpy McHelphelp
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I don't really care if it's rip-offs either, but the thread is about "jokes first seen on Simpsons and later on Futurama". In those two cases the jokes weren't similar, just one (non-essential) element was.
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fat_boz
Crustacean
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how about in 'Big piece of garbage' when they find the bart dolls and bender makes it say "eat my shorts" and he does; he then does na uncanny impression of homer in the phrase: "mmmm, Shorts"
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Helpy McHelphelp
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Yeah, but bear in mind we already know about "Less Than Hero" and "Desperately Xeeking Xena".
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Gorky
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I never noticed that. I'm sure that the writers didn't either.
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Mouse On Venus
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #101 on: 03-03-2004 16:59 »
« Last Edit on: 03-03-2004 16:59 »
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As far as I can tell, only Groening, Cohen, Keeler, Oakley and Weinstein were writers for The Simpsons before Futurama. Since then, of course, a lot of Futurama writers have joined The Simpsons, such as J. Stewart Burns, Brian Kelley and Bill Odenkirk (apparently. He's not listed on imdb, but User names suck says he's on there and he's occasionally right.) You never know, you might start seeing Futurama jokes in The Simpsons now.
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Gorky
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Yep. And, I believe Tom Gammil and Max Pross were consulting producers on Futurama, but that may have been before writing for The Simpsons.
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SlackJawedMoron
Urban Legend
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« Reply #105 on: 03-07-2004 01:26 »
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I wonder how many Simpsons jokes could be found in Life in Hell? I'm not suggesting that MG just constantly reuses his own material, but with his particualar sense of humour the same joke may seem appropriate twice in different settings. And yes, I know Matt doesn't write Simpsons and Futurama eps (mostly). Oh yeah, and as far as I'm concerend, there's one crucial difference between 'Desperately Xeeking Xena' and 'Less then Hero.' 'Xena' was worth a chuckle or two, wheras 'Hero' was an almost constant belly laugh. Particularly the song .
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Gorky
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I've seen Matt mention The Simpsons and Futurama in Life in Hell, but I don't think that he ever really reuses ideas. The references I'm referring to (that I can remember at the moment):
Futurama: Bongo is sitting under the Christmas tree and, in the corner of the panel, there is a Bender action figure.
The Simpsons: 1.)In a strip titled something like "Questions I Get Asked" someone asks "Is Smithers gay?" 2.)Akbar and Jeff are trying out hairdos, including a Marge style bee-hive hair style and a Sideshow Mel one. 3.)Characters resembling Krusty the Klown and others have appeared in various strips
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Ranadok
Starship Captain
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« Reply #110 on: 03-09-2004 13:25 »
« Last Edit on: 03-09-2004 13:25 »
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Originally posted by EspanolBot: He said he wrote all of them. it says here that Cohen was just one of ten writers on that episode. see: Originally posted on snpp.com: Written by Richard Appel, David S. Cohen, Jonathan Collier, Jennifer Crittenden, Greg Daniels, Brent Forrester, Rachel Pulido, Steve Tompkins, Josh Weinstein, and Matt Groening Usually if only one person writes it they just give the credit to that one person, despite the comittee writing process. If they had that many people with the writing credit, then that many people had a hand in writing the segments. Where did he say that he wrote all of them?
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