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DannyJC13
DOOP Secretary
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and perhaps intentionally, perhaps not, the fourth wall was given a tiny prod in the pilot.
What was that?
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DannyJC13
DOOP Secretary
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Go watch it and figure it out. I'm done spoonfeeding the clueless. It's a thankless task and accomplishes nothing.
Grow up.
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transgender nerd under canada
DOOP Ubersecretary
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Your maturity and wisdom have swayed my heart and changed my mind. * tnuk repents of all his sins and becomes a nun.
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DannyJC13
DOOP Secretary
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As an official Discordian Pope, I hereby canonize tnuk as a Saint, Second Class.
Wrong decision.
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Gorky
DOOP Secretary
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Enough of this nunsense! Seriously, tnuk, what moment in the pilot are you referring to? I can think of a few possibilities, but I'm probably wrong. (And I like being spoon-fed, but only because being fork-fed can be dangerous if the feeder has bad aim.)
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Xanfor
DOOP Secretary
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Wrong decision. I now excommunicate and deexcommunicate you.
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transgender nerd under canada
DOOP Ubersecretary
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Enough of this nunsense! Seriously, tnuk, what moment in the pilot are you referring to? The one I was thinking of was a freeze-frame joke... Futurama staff in the head museum - more of a case of the author stepping through the fourth wall than the show breaking it, which is why I called it a possibly-intentional "prod". I mean, I don't recall whether they specifically wrote that in as a gag, or the animation staff were having fun. I was going to watch the pilot with commentary to ascertain whether it was an intentional prod at the fourth wall, but the DVD player is currently in use. Parents and sister watching some film that doesn't finish for another hour. No, I don't have a DVD thingy in my netbook. As an official Discordian Pope, I hereby canonize tnuk as a Saint, Second Class.
Don't you have to be dead to be canonized?
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DannyJC13
DOOP Secretary
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Also when Bender literally breaks the fourth Wall by looking into the camera "And I bet it's gonna get a lot more confusing."
I don't recall, I just remember him saying it outloud.
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Gorky
DOOP Secretary
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Ah, thanks for clearing that up, tnuk. (And yeah, I was right: None of the moments I was thinking of were the moment to which you were referring.)
And as far as breaking the fourth wall in general goes: I don't mind it if it's done subtly--but if the writers call too much attention to what they're doing, it kind of cheapens the episode (and, in a way, the series itself) by meddling with my ever-so-fragile suspension of disbelief.
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Xanfor
DOOP Secretary
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Don't you have to be dead to be canonized? Not according to the Principa Discordia. Now stop questioning my retroactive infalliblity!
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futurefreak
salutatory committee member
Moderator
DOOP Secretary
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1. Groening's head in a jar in the Pilot and elsewhere, as pointed out by TNUK
2. The characters drawn to look like the writers in the internet scenes in A Bicyclops Built for Two (like the one drawn like Cohen when Fry zaps him in the video game). And also similarly kinda the fact that they spoofed Katey Sagal's character in Married..With Children with Leela in that episode.
3. The opening sequence of Bender's Big Score when they talk about the "incompetent morons" who cancelled them at the "BOX" network, and the B fades in and out to an F.
4. The ending of ITWGY when they don't know what is going to happen to them after this.
5. The opening sequence of Rebirth, and even the name of the episode itself.
It's been a while since I saw the older Futurama, I will have to have a look again to find other stuff as I am sure there is.
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ShinyMetal***
Professor
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Yea, I saw that. I always hated when cartoons knew they were on a show. It bugs mah a lot.
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cartoonlover27
Professor
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4th wall is fun
I'm not huge fan of breaking the fourth wall.
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Beamer
DOOP Secretary
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I'm not huge fan of breaking the fourth wall.
Depends on the extent to which it's done, and how seriously the piece should be taken in the first place. I love subtle meta humour that still makes total sense in context, but outright destruction of the fourth wall generally grates me.
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cartoonlover27
Professor
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I'm not huge fan of breaking the fourth wall.
Depends on the extent to which it's done, and how seriously the piece should be taken in the first place. I love subtle meta humour that still makes total sense in context, but outright destruction of the fourth wall generally grates me.
Same here. I mean, c'mon, would you like someone video-taping your life, and turning it into a t.v. show? I don't think characters would let it happen if they knew they were on a show, if that makes any sense.
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cartoonlover27
Professor
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The movie Scream took it too far.
The virgin never dies! Look behind you! Look behind you!
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ShinyMetal***
Professor
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All I know is that a I'd really love a time machine, because 'this isn't a movie, it's real life.'
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note
Crustacean
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It's no fun if planet express can't afford the 4 wall, they're going out of business constantly anyway.
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clickpopboom
Poppler
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I think a bit of prodding at the 4th wall can be a good thing every now and then. Futurama seems to be very "Carol Burnettish" in the way its done. (Burnett was constantly mugging and staring at the camera, but never blatantly breaking the wall) It's not a common Futurama occurrence, but it can provide some good entertainment when it happens.
My personal favorite is in ITWGY when Bender says "No, Fry's crazy in this one."
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