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cyber_turnip
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That is of course, in your incredulous opinion. Seriously, some people still think Futurama is generally good. So don't speak like your opinion is an assertion that summarizes the general view on modern Futurama. At least for the fans that still enjoy the show.
I still think that Futurama is generally good; season 7A was just the worst batch of episodes to date, by far. Obviously this is opinion. I was throwing my opinion back against TNUK's opinion. And it's your opinion that my opinion is incredulous; so don't be a gigantic hypocrite by acting like that's a fact whilst telling me off for not having a "My posts represent my opinions, not facts" disclaimer in my signature. And, like it or not, I think that you'll find that "the general view on modern Futurama" is that it's substantially worse now than it used to be.
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UnrealLegend
Space Pope
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And, like it or not, I think that you'll find that "the general view on modern Futurama" is that it's substantially worse now than it used to be.
I don't think that's quite true... The results from this poll say that people think it's on par to slightly worse. Of course, at 54 votes that's a pretty small sample size. But I honestly don't think the results would differ that significantly on a larger scale. Personally, I feel like the show has gotten a tad worse. Just a tad. There were enough good episodes in 7A for me to be overall happy with it though.
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MuchAdo
Professor
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I guess I'm the only one who thinks the show has always been hit and miss.. meh.
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Inquisitor Hein
Liquid Emperor
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I guess I'm the only one who thinks the show has always been hit and miss.. meh.
Nope.
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Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #168 on: 02-26-2013 16:31 »
« Last Edit on: 02-26-2013 18:15 »
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I agree on the "New Episodes fall in the middle, while the early ones had highlights and downfalls". I would rather have some memorable highlights (TLPJ, TDHAIP, PoB, etc... ) and a few forgettable stinkers (MD, BBA*), than a row of "acceptable filler episodes" Also, I guess present Futurama is yet closer to what Groening/Cohen had originally in mind. The newer seasons were often critizised for bearing a more primitive/cruder/naughtier humor. Yet, it was mentioned on more than one occasion that the writers enjoyed the greater allowances under CC. * Let's see if everyone remembers what was said about judgement always bearing an invisible IMHO )
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MuchAdo
Professor
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Exactly, they have enjoyed the freedom CC offers.
But don't think Cohen doesn't stress out over causally putting Leela in a bed with Fry or a naughty joke here or there.. b/c he does.
I assume that's why he went so bald, he did it for us.. the fans... and stress from actually caring... and heredity.
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transgender nerd under canada
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« Reply #170 on: 02-26-2013 17:56 »
« Last Edit on: 02-26-2013 18:02 by totalnerduk »
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It's always been hit and miss since I started watching... from day one.
There were more hits than misses back when it began, and there was also a lot more depth to the show. Now, there's a lot missing and it makes the misses both more obvious and harder to forgive. For me, at least. That said, I have a more distinguished taste and exacting standards for my entertainment than most do. I can imagine that it's easier for some cretinous and unclutured swine to enjoy lowest-common-denominator TV than it would be for somebody who demands a more esoteric denominator which makes up for lack of accessibility with depth and intelligence. Broader accessibility has obviously widened the fanbase, but it has pushed down the quality. By their nature, accessibility and quality usually have an inversely proportional relationship - look at shows like Firefly and Arrested Development as examples (one was literally hard to access, the other was difficult to immerse yourself in. Both are regarded as extremely high quality television). I agree on the "New Episodes fall in the middle, while the early ones had highlights and downfalls". I would rather have some memorable highlights (TLPJ, TDHAIP, PoB, etc... ) and a few forgettable stinkers (MB, BBA*), than a row of "acceptable filler episodes"
Agreed. But what is MB? Mother's Bay? Mobius Bick? Mars Buniversity? Maging Bender? I'm assuming you meant Mobius Dick, based on your hatred of it.Obviously this is opinion. I was throwing my opinion back against TNUK's opinion.
All I said was that Naturama sucked. You said yourself it felt pointless and "wasn't exactly great". The fact that we can agree that Season 7A was largely disappointing makes me wonder if you can truly be said to be "throwing your opinion back against mine". Honestly, it seems like we're able to agree at least on the original run being much better than the latest season. Even most of Season 6 was better than most of 7A, and there were a few rotten apples in Season 6. Overall though, I have to say that if Season 7A is representative of the current overall quality, then Futurama has gone the way of the Simpsons. Which is sad. I suppose that only time and 7B will tell if this is truly the case.
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Sof
Bending Unit
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Finally some useful information! Thanks! but...ugh Mike Rowe ,is just me or I have the feeling that this guy might ruin Futurama? Personally even if he wrote a good episode (Fry am the eggman, in my opinion is a good one) the rest is really bad (Bender Game and that thing called Butterjunk Effect,is that an episode?). But oh well,see Eric Rogers(Actually he's my favorite writer,even if I used to dislike him),Josh Weinstein and Lewis Morton (and too bad to don't see J. Stewart Burns in the list,he made some good episodes,and yup I'm talking about Neutopia,can be a slow episode but has a neat concept) And yay! is always good to see a girl writing for Futurama! so,yeah I'm starting to have a good feeling about 7B, and yeah 7A wasn't the best thing ever (you can forget some episodes easily) but I agree with MuchAdo, Futurama is "hit and miss". I don't expect romance,maths or sci-fi in every episode, if an episode makes me want to see it again,the I can say that was a good one! (Yes,I'm a very simple person). Oh well,I can't wait for this summer and especially for: Fry and Leela's Big Fling (I don't ship freela but,come on! is Eric Rogers) T.: The Terrestrial (Please be the episode about Lrrr's son! I saw lots of Fry in the preview,I have a very good feeling about it) Saturday Morning Fun Pit (Interesting idea,also Zapp might have his own segment ) Calculon 2.0 (Good writer,good idea and in the preview this was my favorite part) Assie Come Home (I liked the other episode that she wrote)
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DannyJC13
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« Reply #172 on: 02-26-2013 18:24 »
« Last Edit on: 02-26-2013 18:38 »
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BTW, did anyone listened to podcast? Is there anything important in it?
I'm currently 24 minutes into it, no new info yet, but it's interesting to hear how Chris got involved. *edit* Chris just said this year's finale has a "very emotional story" and "a lot of real identity with the characters in it."
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MuchAdo
Professor
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Cool, that sounds great and is somewhat expected.
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Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #174 on: 02-26-2013 20:43 »
« Last Edit on: 02-26-2013 20:46 »
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Well...I am reminded of season 6Bs finale, which also promised a very emotional, touching story. Yet, what we got was: - Leela wanders off for being unhappy about their on/off relationship (which basically was her fault) - The rest of the story takes place without Leela, who - Leela comes back the last minute, in a "We need a happy end..PRIVATE LEELA!! ATTENTION!!!!" "YESSIR!" way.
Though, to be fair, the Fry/Leela love stories usually delivered a good story and were incorporated in a good/touching way into a Sci Fi plot. So we can let that one exception slide, I guess. Though, I really hope the writers did remember for this final that a love theme alone will not do the trick, but they will also have an appropriate sci fi plot to drive the story appropriately.
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Eternium
Professor
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Really? I tought Overclockwise was a great episode! I like how there was less Leela and lots of fry humor( 'Hey?! This isn't a crate, it's just a stinking barrel! I want my money baaaaaaa-!') The story overal was good, but the straw bending flashback was a bit off to me... bender being a bit helpfull and all Bender universe was great is my opinion. I hope "fry and Leela's Big Fling" will be somewhat like Overclockwise with a mix of Fun on a bun & Less Than hero(for some reason...)
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DannyJC13
DOOP Secretary
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Overclockwise has kind of a lame ending IMO, and overclocked Bender was severely underused.
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MuchAdo
Professor
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« Reply #179 on: 02-26-2013 22:15 »
« Last Edit on: 02-26-2013 22:18 »
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Since we're on the topic here's my Futurama best original episode list in order of airdate: "A Flight to Remember", "A Head in the Polls", "Xmas Story", "How Hermes Requisitioned His Groove Back", "Parasites Lost", "The Luck of the Fryrish", "Time Keeps On Slippin'", "Roswell That Ends Well", "Leela's Homeworld", "Jurassic Bark", "Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles", "The Why of Fry", "The Sting", "The Farnsworth Parabox", "The Devil's Hands Are Idle Playthings" ...
Best new episodes: "Bender's Big Score (1-4)", "Lethal Inspection", "The Late Philip J. Fry", "The Prisoner of Benda", "The Silence of the Clamps", "Law and Oracle", "The Tip of the Zoidberg", "Cold Warriors", "Overclockwise", "A Farewell to Arms", "Zapp Dingbat", "The Six Million Dollar Mon", "Fun on a Bun", and "Viva Mars Vegas"... and two of those I'm iffy on.
What do you guys think> what are you tops??
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Eternium
Professor
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« Reply #180 on: 02-26-2013 22:23 »
« Last Edit on: 02-26-2013 22:26 »
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I hope "fry and Leela's Big Fling" will be somewhat like Overclockwise with a mix of Fun on a bun & Less Than hero(for some reason...)
AfaIk, "Meanwhile" will be the episode with a retired superhero running a juwelery, and also for the "10 seconds back in time" button. So if any episode can grant your wish, I guess this will be the one.
Sweeeeeet! Maybe it'll be 'coward man'(?):3 but i really hope on Captain Yesterday! ...is fast, also he is from the past. Not just fast bit from the past! Captain Yesterday!TLPJF if def. My favorite, overclockwise, FoaB & LTH are supreme! Other very good eps are TDHAIP, The luck of the fryish & the why of fry... My favorite movie(which I now watched over 6 times...) is Into The Wild Green Yonder! oh, also... The second part of Free Will Hunting(after benders long weird story time)
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DannyJC13
DOOP Secretary
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What tnuk said, plus Maurice said the superhero is "washed up", Cowardman seems like he's always been washed up, and Captain Yesterday probably won't be around again.
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The Sophisticated Shut In
Bending Unit
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Exactly, they have enjoyed the freedom CC offers.
But don't think Cohen doesn't stress out over causally putting Leela in a bed with Fry or a naughty joke here or there.. b/c he does.
I assume that's why he went so bald, he did it for us.. the fans... and stress from actually caring... and heredity.
He needn't. Futurama has always been aimed at an adult audience, and adults tend to know that people has sex1!!!11!. (To the nuns on PEEL, I'm sorry. It had to be said.) I find it hard to believe Cohen stresses over that stuff though. I mean, the man gave us Mother's Day. Fry : "Nothing in here but a couple of elephant skin rugs . . ."
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MuchAdo
Professor
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I find it hard to believe Cohen stresses over that stuff though. I mean, the man gave us Mother's Day.
Whatever, I guess he lies in the commentaries then. He said he AGONIZED over that quick Fry and Leela in bed bit.
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cyber_turnip
Urban Legend
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All I said was that Naturama sucked. You said yourself it felt pointless and "wasn't exactly great". The fact that we can agree that Season 7A was largely disappointing makes me wonder if you can truly be said to be "throwing your opinion back against mine". I didn't mean it in a confrontational way; but more as if I was throwing it against your opinion to form a big ball of discussion. For the record, I wasn't saying that the show is much worse now, in my opinion - I was saying that that seems to be the general consensus from casual watchers of the show from what I've seen. I loved season 6, but I'm not a gigantic fan of 7 so far.
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Eternium
Professor
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"Censor it! For godsake CENSOR IT!"
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Eternium
Professor
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Not even on youtube? Normally I'm the one who can't watch damn vids:3
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DannyJC13
DOOP Secretary
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First glimpse at Meanwhile?! Tweet from Lee Supercinski: "#Futurama Peter Cole (Left) & Scott Schirle (Right) @ the sound mix for Futurama 726 "Meanwhile". Coming Summer 2013"
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MuchAdo
Professor
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Looks like fun on the bun baby, wooooo!
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transgender nerd under canada
DOOP Ubersecretary
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Y'know, it reminds me of the "end scenario" I came up with some time ago.Xanfor turned it into a fanfic, but that appears to have been lost to the ravages of time, somehow.
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