DannyJC13
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Correct! Better get back ontopic before the mods come a-ragin'.... TOTPPJ.
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DannyJC13
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Something I just noticed:
When NNY was ripped out of the ground and the Ocean started to fill the crater where it was, wouldn't the Sewers/Old New York be flooded? Why aren't the mutants dead?
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Bend-err
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First of all only Manhattan got ripped out, and not right under street level but quite a bit more under it.
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DannyJC13
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No, they don't live on the surface. We talked about this in the goof section...
Plus, Eric Rogers confirmed they are allowed on the surface but most of them still live in the sewers...
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Pendulum
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« Reply #95 on: 08-26-2011 17:36 »
« Last Edit on: 08-26-2011 17:41 »
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Fantastic episode! If this were the penultimate canon episode of the series as it was intended, it would have been very fitting indeed. It was funny. It used all of the major and supporting characters to good effect all wrapped up in a great science fiction story. They even managed to work in some subtle Leela and Fry interplay too which was nice. LOTS of good lines too. "The situation is expected to deteriorate as newscasters whip the city into a panic. RUN! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!" There was a lot I liked about this episode, but it's late here so I'm not going to even bother getting into details. No major gripes at all with this one, and with Overclockwise and Reincarnation the last two episodes of season 6 that remain, I can't help but think that we are in for a stellar finale. 9/10
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wowbagger
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This episode was Futurama. Pure Futurama. 9/10. Couldn't have said it better myself. Only this, 10/10.
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Bend-err
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Current PEEL rating (with 50 votes): 90.80% Current CGEF rating (with 47 votes): 94%
If the rating on CGEF stays it would be the highest rated Futurama episode ever.
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Pendulum
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« Reply #101 on: 08-26-2011 18:11 »
« Last Edit on: 08-26-2011 18:14 »
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Aren't Morbo and Linda supposed to broadcast from L/A anyway?
That's always confused me as well. In ABPOG they indicate that they broadcast from L.A (technically they say they "live" in L.A., but it's still implied they broadcast from there as well), but in most other episodes it's implied otherwise. It makes more sense for them to be based in NNY, so I'd guess that it was just the rule of funny in ABPOG (I can't think of any other instances where it's implied again that they are broadcasting from L.A.) I guess the writers change it depending on which location suits the story best. Let's just justify it by saying that since they are a worldwide news service that they have lots of studios across the globe that they can broadcast from whenever they need to.
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Otis P Jivefunk
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Something I just noticed:
When NNY was ripped out of the ground and the Ocean started to fill the crater where it was, wouldn't the Sewers/Old New York be flooded? Why aren't the mutants dead? This is a good point, and I have to wonder this too. Sure it took a large part of the ground including presumably lower than the sewers go, but I kinda imagined the sewers extended beyond just Manhattan. Also, the ocean seemed to fill it, so how could the land just be placed back on top as if all is back like normal? ... The Morbo/Linda LA thing is something else I hadn't thought of, but I guess it could be justified because in the future it only takes mere seconds to travel from one side of the country to the other given it that it takes seconds to travel to the moon. Maybe they like to report from location... Anyways, I still love the ep...
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LorenzoDuke
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Some good parts. The pacing was good. Didn't like that there was yet another 'the crew don't care about killing one of their own' moment, and having Zapp laser out the city was stupid, but other than that it was definitely one of the better episodes of season 6.
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Otis P Jivefunk
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Something I just thought about, where was Scruffy in this quarantine? Did he escape getting a cold? It didn't take anything away from the episode that he wasn't there because quite frankly he's been in 6B enough already, but still, I have to wonder what he was up to given that presumably he would have been sealed inside the building with the rest of them? ...
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Otis P Jivefunk
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On CGEF, The Late Philip J. Fry was on 96% until roughly about 200 reviews, then idiots just started downvoting it for no reason. It'll probably happen to Cold Warriors too. The same thing happens here on PEEL as well. In fact something similar happened yesterday. A half-dozen episodes, which had not had a new vote on their respective polls in weeks, all suddenly increased their vote totals by one -- all of the new votes being "1". Obviously some vandal decided to drive the average scores down as much as possible. It made no difference whether the episode was good or bad.
It's sad, but it happens on CGEF even more and it also happens in pretty much everything and anything no matter what it is. Someone will always try to spoil it as long as humans exist. We'll just have to live with the averages despite these unfair votes because sadly it happens everywhere...
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fryfanSpyOrama
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« Reply #117 on: 08-26-2011 23:30 »
« Last Edit on: 08-26-2011 23:35 »
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I find myself confused, as to whether to grade this episode with 8/10 or 9/10.
I found myself laughing many many scenes. Linda/morbo, Nixon/Zapp/Wernstrom etc.
This episode is made out of the tradition of episodes like TLOTF and JB, with flashbacks telling us the backstory with clever transitions, but the problem is we've already had an episode like this in the previous week. I'm fully aware of the airing out of order, but the makers of the show still made these episodes. Season 6 has a problem where they've redone the same theme in many episodes. One being time travel with episodes like The Late Philip J. Fry and The President Head episode--thought TLPJF was a clever original take on it--I remember Groening saying in old series audio commentaries stating the time travel wouldn't be used a whole lot and only once in a while, with great episodes like Roswell That Ends Well and the why in fry, with that episode having time travel used only in the third act. Yet, Bender's Big Score used time travel out the ass and now it seems every other episode is about time travel and was a big flashback episode. Don't get me wrong, I loved Bender's Big Score it was better than the second and third film. My point, I hope we don't have every single episode about flashbacks, since we've seen the Professor have one, Bender had one with his origin and now Fry.
I felt the whole flashback sequences were a bit tacked on, not playing a huge part of the story like in TLOTF and JB as much as tried to do, though the last scene where young Fry with his father was touching and is a great end. Though this episode would've still been good if they didn't use flashback, unlike JB and TLOTF which depended on the flashback moments. It was cool to see Fry and his family again since we hardly do throughout the series. Nice throwback to TLOTF with the 7-leafed clover and Yancy wanting to get it. We can assume that Fry put the clover in the safe some time after 1988, since he's still carrying it around and is still fighting with Yancy, or Fry could simply had kept hiding it there in between times he needed it.
A few nitpicks, Kif isn't at all concerned that he's about to kill his gf Amy, who would obviously be in that domed city. Also the whole covering NNY is copied from the Simpsons Movie, though Futurama makes it more believable since it's the future and I liked the new twist with launching it into space.
Final thoughts: Cold Warriors is a really cool episode, with a touching story, and typical Futurama humor, it's a few notches above Jurassic Bark--which I'm bias because I didn't like Seymour all that much-- but not in par with Leela's Homeworld or The Luck of the Fryish, both episodes are the standards for this type of episode. Those episodes had something really emotional, Fry's relationship with his brother and Leela's meeting her parents, but Cold Warriors really wasn't about Fry's relationship with his father. It's there, but that's not the main focus, since it's about Fry getting a cold.
I'd say read Issue 11, of Futurama Comics, since that too also had an interesting story of Fry getting the common cold in the future.
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DannyJC13
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This episode is made out of the tradition of episodes like TLOTF and JB, with flashbacks telling us the backstory with clever transitions, but the problem is we've already had an episode like this in the previous week.
That's CC's fault for airing them out of Production Order.
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