Svip
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Maybe he is just bored? Or maybe he doesn't like getting his words misconstrued? Which constitutes as caring in my mind. Caring about one self, and one's position on the Internet.
SOMEONE IS WRONG ON THE INTERNET. I must fix this.
TOTPNO EDIT FOR CONTEXT
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i_c_weiner
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And the bottom of a hill is just the beginning of another. And explain this "Family Guy-grade crap" and then show there isn't prevalent in the 72 episodes.
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FemJesse
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...like I said, the show is still funny. I am not in panic mode. I just wish the writers would hire one of us fans to as a quality control expert. Just one level-headed person who can say "hey guys--talking boils are stupid. How about some other way of embarassing Leela?"
Here is my impression of you *other* FJ: A Mutant with a Mutation! I DON'T BUY IT!!!
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Svip
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...like I said, the show is still funny. I am not in panic mode. I just wish the writers would hire one of us fans to as a quality control expert. Just one level-headed person who can say "hey guys--talking boils are stupid. How about some other way of embarassing Leela?"
Here is my impression of you
*other* FJ: A Mutant with a Mutation! I DON'T BUY IT!!!
What a terrible impression. His argument is still solid, the talking boil was a hit-and-miss joke. I don't think he has against Leela mutating like that, but if you are going to take that step; how about making it funny?
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Aki
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But the whale in 300 Big Boys was far more plot-relevant and their constant going back to it was for plot reasons rather than humour.
And the vomit in Killer App wasn't? If the only reason Fry wanted followers was to win over Bender, he would never have embarassed Leela like that. Now he had a fine reason, and by the end he even used it to show Leela he cared. If he had sold her out for, say, money, he would have been totally out of character.
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SorynArkayn
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Kryten, don't you think it's a little early to declare "this season is really going downhill"? We're 3 episodes into a 12 episode season; give it a little time.
I think that 3 episodes into a season is sufficient to detect a pattern and comment on it. I've certainly been disappointed by all three episodes -- although I still hope that the show will get back on track soon. Unlike most Futurama fans, I wasn't disappointed by the movies. I loved BBS and ITWGY; and liked BWaBB and BG -- although I didn't like that last act of the latter. So it's not that I hate all new Futurama. I want to like new Futurama. I'd be ecstatic if these three new episodes of Futurama were as good as even the average episode from the origin run. But they're not. They're below average IMO. The common problem with these new episodes is that they're not character-driven; they're plot or circumstance driven episodes. "Rebirth": Leela's apparently dead, so Fry builds a Leela bot to replace her. "In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela": Leela and Zapp crash on a Garden of Eden planet. "Attack of the Killer App": Everyone buys an eyePhone, and Fry and Bender compete to have the most Twit followers. And don't bother trying to refute my opinion by arguing (in a shrill, whiny voice) " There have been are lots of plot-driven episodes of Futurama before. Blah-blah-blah..." I know there have; but they were written better than these episodes, and most importantly, the were funnier! The humour should come from the characters, and not from the circumstances and contrivances that the characters are placed in. @Kryten: I don't think that it's fair to pre-judge an upcoming episode as bad, even if you don't think the plot sounds promising, because your pre-conceived opinion of it can slant your reception of the episode. I always try to go into a new episode of Futurama with an open mind, hoping that it will be the best episode ever, and expecting it to be at least average. I've been disappointed by the past three new episodes because IMO they're below average.
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Aki
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Wow, someone else who didn't hate the movies! I too liked BBS and ItWGY on first view, thought BWaBB was ok and liked BG on second view!
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Svip
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I always try to go into a new episode of Futurama with an open mind, hoping that it will be the best episode ever, and expecting it to be at least average.
And this is why you hate them.
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Svip
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Geez everyone hated the movies? I only hated the second one... (I've been gone for a while)
Nah, SorynArkayn is just generalising again.
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SorynArkayn
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I always try to go into a new episode of Futurama with an open mind, hoping that it will be the best episode ever, and expecting it to be at least average.
And this is why you hate them.
I've never said that I "hated" any episode, ever. The worst I've ever said was that I "disliked" an episode, or I was "disappointed" by an episode. Stop trying to distort what I say to suit your bias against me, douche. And going into every new episode with the expectation that it will be average or better isn't unreasonable. On the contrary, it's about as reasonable as a person can be. What do you do, Svip? Do you expect every new episode to be the worst episode ever, just so you can say it was better? By that "logic", you'd probably say that the Twilight movies were better than you expected.
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Svip
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I always try to go into a new episode of Futurama with an open mind, hoping that it will be the best episode ever, and expecting it to be at least average.
And this is why you hate them.
I've never said that I "hated" any episode, ever. The worst I've ever said was that I "disliked" an episode, or I was "disappointed" by an episode.
Stop trying to distort what I say to suit your bias against me, douche.
Nice retort. Anyway; I was simplifying your sentiment. And going into every new episode with the expectation that it will be average or better isn't unreasonable. On the contrary, it's about as reasonable as a person can be.
What do you do, Svip? Do you expect every new episode to be the worst episode ever, just so you can say it was better? By that "logic", you'd probably say that the Twilight movies were better than you expected.
No, I do not. This world is not black and white. You cannot assume if I do not think it is the best episode, I will think it is the worst episode. I watch the new episodes with caursies (I cannot spell this word for some reason, stupid dyslexia) optimism and reserved scepticism.
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Gorky
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Holy shit, it's JBERGES! And FemJesse! I remember you guys!
That is all.
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SorynArkayn
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« Reply #194 on: 07-02-2010 21:28 »
« Last Edit on: 07-02-2010 21:29 »
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No, I do not. This world is not black and white. You cannot assume if I do not think it is the best episode, I will think it is the worst episode. I watch the new episodes with caursies (I cannot spell this word for some reason, stupid dyslexia) optimism and reserved scepticism.
" Cautious optimism and reserved scepticism" doesn't seem altogether different than my reasonable attitude, and yet you criticize me for it. As I've said many times, I want to love these new episodes. I don't believe that I pre-judge them or am biased against them in any way. But I've been disappointed by them thus far. I don't expect every episode to be as good as "Roswell That Ends Well", as funny as "Amazon Women in the Mood", or touching as "Jurassic Bark"; but I expected that at least one of these three new episodes would be as good as an "average" episode from Futurama's original run. They're not terrible, just below average IMO, which I consider to be disappointing.
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Svip
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No, I do not. This world is not black and white. You cannot assume if I do not think it is the best episode, I will think it is the worst episode. I watch the new episodes with caursies (I cannot spell this word for some reason, stupid dyslexia) optimism and reserved scepticism.
"Cautious optimism and reserved scepticism" doesn't seem altogether different than my reasonable attitude, and yet you criticize me for it.
I don't think "hoping for the best episode ever" and "expecting it to be an average episode" are the same as "cautious optimism and reserved scepticism". Here is a funny thing, I didn't like "Roswell That Ends Well" on first viewing. It seemed ... off to me at that point. And even today, I think Mildred being old all of the sudden ruins that episode. Therefore, I never trust my initial reaction, it is most likely inaccurate.
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i_c_weiner
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I can't promise the new episodes will perform in the same way, but as I've mentioned in another post, my second viewing of Rebirth was way better than the first.
This is how I feel. On initial viewing, AotKA didn't feel as good as it did on second. First viewing, there were long commercials interrupting the action. I would chuckle here and there but that was it. On second viewing, I was watching the HD version on my laptop with headphones and nobody around. I was able to pause, rewind, and see background gags. For example, the first time I hadn't noticed as much that it was Dr. Ben Beeler in front of them in line for the eyePhone, or that the pizza place was Cygnoid's from ALoHO. And I laughed out loud more than I had before. A similar situation happened with IAGDL. I didn't get to watch every single premiere of the original run. I can't remember when I started to seriously watch it, it's a blur, but I distinctly remember watching most broadcast Season 5 when it aired on Fox. But, back then, you didn't have as much of an opportunity as you do now to immediately rewatch the episodes... unless you had a VCR handy. Now, you can DVR, Comedy Central has reruns all the time, and there are streaming and downloading online.
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